b230 in a 140?

144gl · 03-18-2007, 07:54 PM

has anyone ever swapped a newer style b21, or b23/b230 into a 140 series car? i have a very solid 74 144, but the old b20 is totally done,and the old bw35 just wont cut it anymore. any information or publications on this swap?
thanks.

rustyvolvo · 03-18-2007, 09:01 PM

What are you planning for a gearbox? Are you going with a stick or keeping it an auto?

klr142 · 03-18-2007, 10:54 PM

Of course they have.

Do a search. Here, and most importantly, on the Brickboard.

spongemonster · 03-19-2007, 08:07 PM

Yeah there are many. I recall (GtJordan can correct me) that someone once even sold some mounts pre-made. Only problem I can see is wanting an overdrive tranny in a non-remote shift car but you shouldn't have that problem considering the year of yours. Give 'er

boostdemon · 03-19-2007, 10:25 PM

Theres some, i know there was a project build someone did once (most likely before we had a forum just for that). I dont recall exactly but i believe everything was straight forward however the firewall needed to be cut to fit the head mounted distributor? simple fix would be to use a block mounted one

144gl · 03-19-2007, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustyvolvo

What are you planning for a gearbox? Are you going with a stick or keeping it an auto?

i would perfer to use a manual.either a m46, or perhaps even a borg warner t-5 from a 5.0 litre mustang. i see there is a company on the east coast that makes a adapter plate to do this.

144gl · 03-19-2007, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klr142

Of course they have.

Do a search. Here, and most importantly, on the Brickboard.

where on the brickboard do i look for this information?

klr142 · 03-19-2007, 10:51 PM

In the search section...

And mainly the 140 section, but the 120 section has some swap information as well.

144gl · 03-20-2007, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klr142

In the search section...

And mainly the 140 section, but the 120 section has some swap information as well.

yes, thank you. i have found it.

Stereophile33 · 03-20-2007, 08:03 PM

I can get you motor mounts/brackets to mount a b21/23/230 into a 142 so it will bolt up to the stock tranny.

Jonathan

klr142 · 03-20-2007, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stereophile33

I can get you motor mounts/brackets to mount a b21/23/230 into a 142 so it will bolt up to the stock tranny.

Jonathan

Have you sold them to the OVTers who were looking some?

144gl · 03-21-2007, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stereophile33

I can get you motor mounts/brackets to mount a b21/23/230 into a 142 so it will bolt up to the stock tranny.

Jonathan

do you make these yourself from scratch, or modify the factory mounts?

Billiam500 · 03-21-2007, 02:41 PM

If you mount the b21/23/230 upright you can use the b20 bellhousing and use an m40/41, or get an adapter plate and use a T5.

airpill134 · 03-21-2007, 03:57 PM

thats what i wanna do with my 71 144

Forg · 03-21-2007, 05:19 PM

I'm told, by someone who did it, that if you put an OHC redblock in place of an OHV one, you not only change the mounts but you change the oil-pan & oil-pump (the OHV ones are a bolt-in fit to the OHC engine). Then you just use the original OHV gearbox - assuming it's strong enough, if you're turbocharging you may need to go more customised than that.

03-18-2007, 07:54 PM	#1
144gl Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: canada	b230 in a 140? has anyone ever swapped a newer style b21, or b23/b230 into a 140 series car? i have a very solid 74 144, but the old b20 is totally done,and the old bw35 just wont cut it anymore. any information or publications on this swap? thanks.

03-18-2007, 10:54 PM	#3
klr142 Turbo, what? Join Date: May 2004 Location: OR	Of course they have. Do a search. Here, and most importantly, on the Brickboard. __________________ Kyle - NLMGG: '91 244 NA DD/Track - General Leif: '71 142 b230 Chumpcar - Oregon Volvo Tuners? - For Sale?

03-19-2007, 08:07 PM	#4
spongemonster Board Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vernon, British Columbia	Yeah there are many. I recall (GtJordan can correct me) that someone once even sold some mounts pre-made. Only problem I can see is wanting an overdrive tranny in a non-remote shift car but you shouldn't have that problem considering the year of yours. Give 'er __________________ Sometimes I consider letting my car burn.... The tires off the rims.

03-19-2007, 10:25 PM	#5
boostdemon creative mastermind Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cary, NC	Theres some, i know there was a project build someone did once (most likely before we had a forum just for that). I dont recall exactly but i believe everything was straight forward however the firewall needed to be cut to fit the head mounted distributor? simple fix would be to use a block mounted one __________________ "Flathood" Owners \| Motorcyclists \| Guitarists

03-20-2007, 08:03 PM	#10
Stereophile33 Board Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Portland, OR	I can get you motor mounts/brackets to mount a b21/23/230 into a 142 so it will bolt up to the stock tranny. Jonathan __________________ in quasi-retirement...

03-18-2007, 09:01 PM	#2
rustyvolvo Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007	What are you planning for a gearbox? Are you going with a stick or keeping it an auto?

03-19-2007, 10:51 PM	#8
klr142 Turbo, what? Join Date: May 2004 Location: OR	In the search section... And mainly the 140 section, but the 120 section has some swap information as well.

03-21-2007, 02:41 PM	#13
Billiam500 Board Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Detroit	If you mount the b21/23/230 upright you can use the b20 bellhousing and use an m40/41, or get an adapter plate and use a T5. __________________ (\_/) (O.o) (> <)This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination

03-21-2007, 03:57 PM	#14
airpill134 Board Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: dundee oregon	thats what i wanna do with my 71 144

03-21-2007, 05:19 PM	#15
Forg Board Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Retirement Village, Sydney	I'm told, by someone who did it, that if you put an OHC redblock in place of an OHV one, you not only change the mounts but you change the oil-pan & oil-pump (the OHV ones are a bolt-in fit to the OHC engine). Then you just use the original OHV gearbox - assuming it's strong enough, if you're turbocharging you may need to go more customised than that. __________________ When I'm cruisin' in overdrive ... Don't have to listen to no run-of-the-mill talk jive. Shatner: The Colonel is breakdancing ... gimme a break!! Rollins: Credit terms raised! Shatner: I can't get behind any of that! Shatner: I can't get behind so-called singers that can't carry a tune, get paid for talking, how easy is that? Well, maybe I could get behind that ... Rollins: Well, I can't!!

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