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Old 04-27-2015, 03:59 PM   #1
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I want to have at least one running 245 as a daily/beater. I want LH2.4 for comfort and reliability. Right now, I've got two candidates.



1993 245, current daily.
Pros
Already has LH2.4
Pretty solid body
Decent interior

Cons
Dented and ugly
Late front end
Rusty doors and tailgate
Road tax
Inspection every year
Cannot legally swap engine
Loose front end
Broken ABS
Cracked windshield
Like 300k miles on it



1976 245, my old daily (pic from glory days 5 years ago)
Pros
Tax exempt
Inspection every other year
Old front end
Sentimental value

Cons
One rotten rocker panel
No engine
Some bodged earlier repairs and mods by me
Nasty interior



Fixing up the 93 to my liking would involve transplanting the early front end, changing the doors, all new joints and bushings, new windshield etc. After which it would need paint to look presentable, and I'd still have a super wavy roof. Then it needs tax which is like $350 or so.

If I do the 76, I'd swap the whole driveline and all the wiring and interior from the 93 into it. It needs a bit of rust repairs, but nothing too bad. It can also be registered legally with a B230FT at a later point.

What say ye, TB? I'm leaning towards the 76 but it is a lot more work.
Also, is the later dashboard completely bolt-on into the 76?
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Old 04-27-2015, 04:03 PM   #2
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Or crush both and buy a third one?
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Old 04-27-2015, 04:25 PM   #3
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Update the old one. The early cars have more cool factor in my opinion anyway.
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Old 04-27-2015, 05:48 PM   #4
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As a North American, The 93 with E codes and eggcrate is kind of a big deal, so it would probably be my choice. That said, I'm sure the look is considered more pedestrian in Europe, and the 76 does seem like a more interesting car with more potential. I say put the work in and have something unique. I actually have that exact 76 in the same colour beige, except in 242 form.
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Old 04-27-2015, 05:55 PM   #5
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This is easy. 76.

No point in putting in all that work and being stuck with a lame engine.

This is the exact opposite of what I'm doing, but old cars around here are rusty and /or overpriced, there are no engine swap restrictions, and I'm going for a group A front end anyway.
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Yep a no brainier.
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Old 04-27-2015, 07:48 PM   #7
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93 have better bodies but your 76 looks to be in better shape and you can make more modifications legally.

I think the 76 looks nicer, go beige!!!
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Go with the 76.
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Old 04-28-2015, 01:50 AM   #9
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I'm leaning towards the 76 too even though there's more work involved.

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As a North American, The 93 with E codes and eggcrate is kind of a big deal, so it would probably be my choice. That said, I'm sure the look is considered more pedestrian in Europe
Yeah, it's just a stock 93 with an 83 grill ziptied on.
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How about you buy a crashed 93 and keep your currently perfecly ok driver while making the 76 nice?
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The 93 is due for annual inspection on May 5th and it will never pass.
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Old 04-28-2015, 02:49 AM   #12
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Well there ya go
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Old 04-28-2015, 07:58 AM   #13
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I just found a red 93 with valid inspection for $300 quite close to me. Maybe it would make sense to buy that and scavenge the blue one?
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Old 04-28-2015, 09:05 AM   #14
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I parted a very nice '92 so that my '79 could get a second chance at life. I wish I could have both cars, but I don't regret the choice. Most of the "updating the 79" was fairly straightforward. The 79 was a complete shell and I carried over basically every wire, clip and bolt. The gas tank swapped over, the dash swapped over (I can even still use my driver side air vent, it's just fiddly to reach now).
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Old 04-28-2015, 02:36 PM   #15
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I felt inspired today so I gutted the interior of the 76. What a gross, oily, hairy, spider infested, wasp nest containing mess that was after sitting under a tree for 3 years with a leaking can of transmission oil in the back seat. Now for the pressure washer and the welder...
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Good luck! We'll be interested in seeing this in the build pages.
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