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Old 03-16-2015, 04:57 PM   #1
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Hey guys. Im building a squirter turbo redblock and am looking for some beefier rods.

I found these

http://m.ebay.com/itm/151294847341?nav=SEARCH

And was wondering if anybody knew anything about these rods, my goal is around 400hp, theyre a bit cheeper than others around here

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Old 03-16-2015, 06:03 PM   #2
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My understanding is they work with stock pistons and are the same h beam rods that other vendors around here sell. I've read to make sure they all weigh the same and that that can be a discrepancy. But alas, didn't order mine from there and don't know for a fact.
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Old 03-16-2015, 06:37 PM   #3
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Hey guys. Im building a squirter turbo redblock and am looking for some beefier rods.

I found these

http://m.ebay.com/itm/151294847341?nav=SEARCH

And was wondering if anybody knew anything about these rods, my goal is around 400hp, theyre a bit cheeper than others around here

Thanks
I'd look for something with the big end width set for "full width" so the rod is not "piston guided"...do that makes getting the rod flaot easier..
Most if not all aftermarket forged pistons have a wider distance between the pin bosses and often the sides of the pin bosses are not straight..
The way Volvo dioes the rod guiding means the gap between the pin bosses must be spot on at rod width + approx .008-.010.

That is a pointless pain in the ace.

These rods have a lot of real improvements over those you linked to and are a good price and good quaility...I know because I've sold over 240 of them
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CXRacing-VOL...18d2ab&vxp=mtr

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VOLVO B230 Engine

Specifications:
Rod Length: 6.299" (160 mm )
B/E Bore: 52mm
S/E Bore: 23.566mm-------------this is Chevy .927" huge choice of pins
B/E W: 29.75mm----------------full width crank steered
S/E W: 24.8mm
Rod Bolt: 7/16"-------------------bigger and stronger than any others...
This Auction is for Rod x 4 pcs

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Forged Aircraft 4340 Steel, Highest Level of Strength
High Performance, Supports 600 HP
These will require custom pistons, but it also means the motor will be much crisper and snappier response...hundreds of grams less reciprocating weight per cylinder means not just better response but less vibrations, less stress on rod and main bearings, and the length means less side thrust--bores last longer..
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Http://maxspeedingrods.com

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Old 03-17-2015, 11:36 AM   #5
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Are you saying that i should go with longer rods, and a shorter pison john the agitator? Im kinda confused
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Old 03-17-2015, 11:39 AM   #6
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yes that's what he's advocating.
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Old 03-17-2015, 11:58 AM   #7
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There was a discussion on rod length, etc here http://forums.turbobricks.com/showth...ht=rods&page=2 but be advised it got very heated, resulted in some posts deleted, insults traded, and ultimately a thread lock.

I recall one user was against long rods in turbo engines but either I missed it when I reviewed that thread or it wasn't posted in that thread.
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Are you saying that i should go with longer rods, and a shorter pison john the agitator? Im kinda confused

Only if you want to reduce reciprocating weight by 350-400g per hole...

And if the difference in price is negligible, why wouldn't you want to shed nearly a pound of reciprocating weight?

-150g is noticeable.... getting rid of 350-400g/per cylinder is nice.
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Where'd 400hp come from? Just curious.
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Where'd 400hp come from? Just curious.
In this thread? I don't see any reference to 400hp.
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In this thread? I don't see any reference to 400hp.
First post, OP's target for the motor.
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First post, OP's target for the motor.
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Ok. So if i were to use 160mm rods what are the piston specs im looking at? Comp height and everything. And anywhere i could get these pistons?
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Spent four bills at Yoshifab for the set, and they are beautiful.
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Ok. So if i were to use 160mm rods what are the piston specs im looking at? Comp height and everything. And anywhere i could get these pistons?

In a B230, comp hgt stock is 39,7mm so 8mm shorter or 31,7mm

You can PM me at worst case, or callme. I am a CP Pistons dealer, sold hundreds and hundreds of Volvo, and scores of Ford, Nissan, Misterbitchy and even lowly Sub-a-rat pistons..Sent pistons all over the world.. 2 sets in ex-factory Group A cars: one car in Australia and 1 car in Portugal
All orders are custom after discussion on goals, use, boost etc.
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Spent four bills at Yoshifab for the set, and they are beautiful.
Mine are beautiful-er....
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Whats the cost for the shorter pistons?
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PM answered.
you have the phone number.
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OP I have those rods in one of mine.

Edit: The exact ones in the link. They're re branded in ink!
If you look at other Chinese rod designs, you'll see that there are two or three distinct designs. I don't remember what these ones are but the rods I got were a drop in and needed no re sizing or what not.


I used stock cast pistons so they are piston steered just like stock.
I bought them because they're cheaper then reconditioned 13mm Volvo rods, lighter and a lot stiffer
Hong kong rods will handle 400hp with headroom.
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OP I have those rods in one of mine.
I used stock cast pistons so they are piston steered just like stock.
I bought them because they're cheaper then reconditioned 13mm Volvo rods, lighter and a lot stiffer
Hong kong rods will handle 400hp with headroom.

Its Chengdu in Sichuan Province, not Guangdong, gwei-lo.

Sichuan (Chinese: 四川; pinyin: About this sound Schuān, known formerly in the West by its postal map romanization of Szechwan or the alternative romanisation Szechuan) is a province in southwest China. The name of the province is an abbreviation of S Chuānl (四川路), or "Four circuits of rivers", which is itself abbreviated from Chuānxi Sl (川峡四路), or "Four circuits of rivers and gorges", named after the division of the existing circuit into four during the Northern Song dynasty.[4] The capital is Chengdu, a key economic centre of Western China.

About a 850 miles away..

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Its Chengdu in Sichuan Province, not Guangdong, gwei-lo.

Sichuan (Chinese: 四川; pinyin: About this sound Schuān, known formerly in the West by its postal map romanization of Szechwan or the alternative romanisation Szechuan) is a province in southwest China. The name of the province is an abbreviation of S Chuānl (四川路), or "Four circuits of rivers", which is itself abbreviated from Chuānxi Sl (川峡四路), or "Four circuits of rivers and gorges", named after the division of the existing circuit into four during the Northern Song dynasty.[4] The capital is Chengdu, a key economic centre of Western China.

About a 850 miles away..

gringos.
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And since when are Scots not gweilos, gringo?
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And since when are Scots not gweilos, gringo?
Ask a Mexican.
Also I'm half welsh so I can't spell either.

Hey wait. Gweilo is Japanese isn't it?
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Oh also, they might not be ARP2000.
Mine had 8740 bolts despite the listing.
No biggie for me. They're old school but still very good.
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