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Old 07-28-2021, 07:14 PM   #1
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I've always run Michelin. I need a new set of tires and am looking for input.

Pirelli P4 Four Seasons Plus or Michelin Defender?
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:21 PM   #2
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I don't know if they come in your size, but I just put Michelin CrossClimate 2s on my wife's car and they are excellent. Super quiet, with great grip in the wet.
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:32 PM   #3
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:32 PM   #4
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Which car are we talking about? The 245 or the 244? I'm assuming stock 14" rims? I had the old Pirelli P6000 tires (not the P4's, obviously) on our 240s in the past. Decent tires. Michelins can be a crapshoot, depending on which tires you go with. The lower end tires don't seem to be that great, but the MXV4 and higher end tires are decent. If you can chuck a set of virgos on the car, a set of 205/55R15 tires (if sedan) or a set of 205/65R15 tires (if wagon) would be a good choice and your tire selection range will increase.
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:50 PM   #5
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Both cars have 15 inch wheels - I should have said that I'm replacing 15 inch tires.
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:59 PM   #6
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I prefer Michelins especially if you can get them in 205-55-15. I use that size sedan or wagon.
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Old 07-28-2021, 08:11 PM   #7
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I'm running a pair of Pirelli P4 Plus, size 195/65R-15's on the front of my 88 765. They appear to be good tires. The Plus is H speed rated.
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Just went to a friend's shop, got on the tire machine and put 4 of these on my Virgos, couldn't be happier.



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Old 07-28-2021, 09:12 PM   #9
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Just went to a friend's shop, got on the tire machine and put 4 of these on my Virgos, couldn't be happier.



https://www.ebay.com/itm/311895715687
I ran some of these tires on my 88 765. They wear like iron and get very hard as they age.
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Old 07-28-2021, 09:22 PM   #10
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As long as you are considering options:

https://tirereviewsandmore.com/bfgoo...s-tire-review/

Great all season ultra HP tire - will give Pirelli and Micheline a run for their money.

I switched a number of years ago with no regrets.
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Old 07-28-2021, 10:32 PM   #11
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I have P4s on Virgos 205/60/15 and they are great. Like them much better than the Defenders in the same size they replaced.
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Old 07-28-2021, 11:31 PM   #12
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It's too bad Michelin stopped making Pilots in 15" or 16" or probably 17" now too. Years ago, at the boneyard, I scored a super nice set of Virgos with 205/60/15 Michelin Pilots and they were excellent.
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As long as you are considering options:

https://tirereviewsandmore.com/bfgoo...s-tire-review/

Great all season ultra HP tire - will give Pirelli and Micheline a run for their money.

I switched a number of years ago with no regrets.
No 14s or 15s for the purists...
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Old 07-29-2021, 12:46 AM   #14
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No 14s or 15s for the purists...
Ah - I should have checked that. Spaced the fact that I ran 16s on the GT and the other two have 17s
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Tires use carbon black in their manufacturing. I knew a engineer that work for a plant that made carbon black. I asked him what tires,in hie opinion where the best. Michelin was his answer.
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Old 07-30-2021, 02:32 PM   #17
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Hopefully BFG has improved since the Comp T/A HR4 era... Had a set of the aforementioned BFGs in the 205/60R15 size on a previous 242. Tires were great while they had tread. Once they got close to the wear bars, BFG became NFG. (No Fvcking Grip).

Hard pass on the Michelin Offenders... They remind me too much of the X-1 tires of the late '90s. Super long treadwear life, but not that great, handling-wise.
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