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Old 10-04-2020, 07:17 PM   #1
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I've got a set of enkei 92's with 215/70R14 cooper cobras and the tire is really really close to the strut housing/lower spring seat. I bought a set of extended wheel studs and nuts thinking that I would have to add some spacers, but I haven't had any rubbing as far as I can tell. I took a picture of the gap which looks to be almost 3mm. Second picture is with a standard volvo bone tool stuck in the space.


https://i.imgur.com/lgY19mq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Ijg4nv0.jpg


Would it be foolish to leave this alone, or would it be a good idea to add spacers?
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Old 10-04-2020, 08:30 PM   #2
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I just measured the distance between the hub face and the inboard edge of the wheel. I guess I would call it the "inner offset". It's the exact same at 4" as the factory steel wheel. So it looks like any width this wheel gained compared to a factory steelie went outward. I guess the reason the tire is so close is because this tire is wider and slightly taller than the factory specified tire for a wagon (195/75R14).
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Old 10-04-2020, 09:03 PM   #3
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Nevermind I'm just gonna get spacers :^)
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Old 10-04-2020, 09:30 PM   #4
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If it doesn't touch it should be fine. Go hit some bumps and see if the sidewall flexes into the closest object, if not you are good.
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^^That would be perfect, and legal for inspection almost everywhere. You can usually do 5mm max before the inspection guys get upset.
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Old 10-04-2020, 09:53 PM   #7
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Yeah that is pretty neat. Although with these wheels I barely have 3mm of thread showing.
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Yeah that is pretty neat. Although with these wheels I barely have 3mm of thread showing.


You really need 5 or 6 turns on 1/2x20 to be safe.
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Old 10-04-2020, 10:14 PM   #9
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:^) That's why I bought extended studs with fresh nuts from Ben.
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Old 10-06-2020, 10:47 AM   #10
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Why that tire size specifically? With a wagon, your tire size should be around 24.7" to keep an accurate speedo and with your size you're at 25.8", which gives you around .5" less clearance of things like strut towers.
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Old 10-08-2020, 08:01 PM   #11
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As far as I understand, the factory spec for a wagon is a 195/75R14 which has a 25.5" rolling diameter. So I'm only 0.3" over which gives me 0.15" less clearance than spec. My speedometer is practically dead on for once. If anything it reads maybe 0.5 to 1 mph over compared to my phone's gps.
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Old 10-09-2020, 08:07 PM   #12
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Default depends on your comfort with tire touching the spring base

I've driven with sharp shoulder winter tires and about the same clearance. Upon some side loads, the tire did make contact and eventually wore a bit of a divot into them.
Although I won't choose that wheel offset for that tire diameter again, it doesn't make me worried at all in use.
So for my money, yeah spacers are an ok idea, but I'd prefer a more proper wheel offset without spacers. Can't you find a 14" wheel that gets you an extra 3mm of clearance for, like, very low cost?

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I've got a set of enkei 92's with 215/70R14 cooper cobras and the tire is really really close to the strut housing/lower spring seat. I bought a set of extended wheel studs and nuts thinking that I would have to add some spacers, but I haven't had any rubbing as far as I can tell. I took a picture of the gap which looks to be almost 3mm. Second picture is with a standard volvo bone tool stuck in the space.


https://i.imgur.com/lgY19mq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Ijg4nv0.jpg


Would it be foolish to leave this alone, or would it be a good idea to add spacers?
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Old 10-09-2020, 09:17 PM   #13
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Nah there's no way I'm getting rid of these wheels. I need to post pics of them. Anyway I think it would do well with some 16.5mm spacers
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