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Old 07-01-2021, 03:32 PM   #1
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I just recently got my B23F/AW70 put back into my 242. I am working now on getting all the connections re-terminated, and I've noticed that the kickdown cable on this AW70 is quite a bit longer than the one that was on the AW71 I pulled out of the car. What needs to change here?

I also purchased a cruise system from a member, and the pulley that came with it seems to have a different mounting bracket. Is my intake incompatible with this?

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Old 07-02-2021, 04:21 PM   #2
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Is the cable stopper crimped in the wrong place maybe?
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Old 07-02-2021, 04:36 PM   #3
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Is the AW71 from a 240 Turbo?
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Is the AW71 from a 240 Turbo?
I don't know the history of the AW71. The car came with an M46, so it was swapped over at some point.
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Old 07-02-2021, 05:01 PM   #5
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Hello,

I just recently got my B23F/AW70 put back into my 242. I am working now on getting all the connections re-terminated, and I've noticed that the kickdown cable on this AW70 is quite a bit longer than the one that was on the AW71 I pulled out of the car. What needs to change here?

I also purchased a cruise system from a member, and the pulley that came with it seems to have a different mounting bracket. Is my intake incompatible with this?

http://imgur.com/gallery/p5QI5km
You shouldn't need to change anything. That AW-70 was behind a B23F.
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Old 07-02-2021, 05:11 PM   #6
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You shouldn't need to change anything. That AW-70 was behind a B23F.
How strange. The intakes and pulleys didn't change over the years, did they?
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Old 07-02-2021, 05:39 PM   #7
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Not enough to make a difference. I wonder if you have the correct bracket on your intake manifold.
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Old 07-02-2021, 06:09 PM   #8
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I'll take more photos when I get home.

What about the cruise pulley/bracket? It's very different than what I have!
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Old 07-02-2021, 06:20 PM   #9
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When I got my '85 GLT, the AW71 transmission had supposedly been rebuilt somewhat recently. If you look at the kickdown cable bracket (click for bigger),

you can sort-of see part of a flat extension that was welded in to get the cable to fit. I'm thinking that the transmission rebuild shop must have used a different replacement cable than original, and that it was easier to weld in an extension than to find and re-replace the cable.

I still have that manifold it the garage if you'd like a better picture of the extension.
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How strange. The intakes and pulleys didn't change over the years, did they?
The B21FT intake & throttle spool is different than EFI and therefore the 240T AW 71 uses a shorter kick down cable.

Don't know about the other K-jet setups.

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The AW-71 never came in an NA 240. That transmission has to already be a transplant. That’s why it is different.
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When I got my '85 GLT, the AW71 transmission had supposedly been rebuilt somewhat recently. If you look at the kickdown cable bracket (click for bigger),

you can sort-of see part of a flat extension that was welded in to get the cable to fit. I'm thinking that the transmission rebuild shop must have used a different replacement cable than original, and that it was easier to weld in an extension than to find and re-replace the cable.

I still have that manifold it the garage if you'd like a better picture of the extension.
Oh, maybe the cruise pulley/bracket is for a K-jet. The one in your picture sits on top of the manifold, mine is to the side.

It's weird that the kickdown cable lengths are different for turbo... I thought the the automotics were very similar inside?
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Old 07-02-2021, 06:42 PM   #13
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The B21FT intake & throttle spool is different than EFI and therefore the 240T AW 71 uses a shorter kick down cable.

Don't know about the other K-jet setups.

I guess it would make sense if the guy I got this from just pulled all of his parts from one of the B21FT cars, including all the bracketry. So I should just be able to use the B23F brackets on my manifold, correct?
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Old 07-02-2021, 07:28 PM   #14
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Here is the link to some photos of the bracketry I currently have installed on my engine:

http://imgur.com/gallery/QaQ8Ki9

I could always drill a hole the difference in length of the two cables in the bracket to set it back a bit.


Edit: Wait a second, I don't think this bracket is factory at all! I think it's a homemade bracket out of aluminum angle stock! Can anyone confirm?

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Old 07-02-2021, 08:34 PM   #15
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Here's what my LH2.4 converted B21FT looks like now one small hose clamp ago (click for bigger):


This is using the longer AW71 kickdown cable (not the pre-rebuild original turbo K-jet cable).

Is there a notch for the CPS sensor in your AW71? I needed to add my own, but somewhere between the last turbo 240s and the turbo LH2.4 740s/940s, the bellhousing casting was changed to add the CPS notch.
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That is definitely a homemade kick down cable bracket on your car. The correct bracket sits back further. I should have something that will work on one of the intakes I have.
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Old 07-02-2021, 09:00 PM   #17
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I've figured out what the previous owner did! Homemade bracket using the original kickdown hole as the bolt hole. Ingenious, but confusing for sure!! Thanks bobxyz for the reference photo! Also thanks 2manyturbos and Redwood Chair for the assistance!

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