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Old 05-09-2019, 01:03 AM   #1
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Default Has anyone used Retro Turbo's camber plates?

I have recently been getting a clunk in the front which I really think is failing strut mounts. The rubber was all cracked and nasty looking back when I was throwing an angle grinder at my coils, which made 2 coils fall off. I would like to go OEM Volvo, but for around the same price as 2 stock rubber mounts, I can get RT's camber plates that are mild steel.


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Old 05-09-2019, 04:15 AM   #2
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or you can get stainless ones https://www.classicswede.co.uk/V2_24..._14936909.aspx
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Old 05-09-2019, 06:54 AM   #3
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So other than being made of different steel, is the CS one any better than the RT one? They both look like they have pillow ball bearings, but the CS has a bit more camber adjustment.
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Old 05-09-2019, 10:33 AM   #4
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You should also consider these.

https://www.bneshop.com/collections/...t-strut-mounts
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Old 05-09-2019, 10:35 AM   #5
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I have the 7/9 version of ^^^^, been really happy with them.
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Old 05-09-2019, 10:51 AM   #6
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I really just want some decent mounts until I get coilovers, which I'll go all out on.
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Old 05-09-2019, 02:53 PM   #7
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if we had an advertisement jar, we would have 3 bucks in it now.. :D
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Old 05-09-2019, 06:05 PM   #8
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if we had an advertisement jar, we would have 3 bucks in it now.. :D
We need every single company that makes strut mounts for 240s on this thread.
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Old 05-09-2019, 06:07 PM   #9
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Or support the guy that resides on the board and makes a quality product with a quality track record, that's also here in the states.
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Old 05-09-2019, 08:55 PM   #10
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Ben's products all the way. You get parts that are engineered, not just created. Worth the money 100%.
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I'm sure I'm going with Ben's coilovers with all the good things added onto them, just not at the moment since I have college and summer classes.
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Old 05-09-2019, 09:58 PM   #12
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The way I look at it, is you can get two OEM rubber mounts for 165 off FCP, which I've heard in rumor have dropped in quality, or you can get Ben's for 185. Plus if you get coil overs later, I'm sure you can resell Ben's here on the forum.
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The ones from Ben also fit coilovers and those parts are available with the easy steer option.
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And they make a huge difference. You wouldn't believe how much the stock upper mounts negatively affect handling.
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Old 05-09-2019, 11:16 PM   #15
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I'm sure I'm going with Ben's coilovers with all the good things added onto them, just not at the moment since I have college and summer classes.
You can get Ben's mounts, use them in place of stock because they will outlast the replacement factory pieces, save up coin, buy Ben's coilovers and reuse the plates. Simple. I highly recommend them.
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Old 05-10-2019, 01:23 AM   #16
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“For a street car, the first or third will be the best options.

For a race car, the second or third will be the best options.”

Why do you say this? Option 2 makes more sense in my mind for a street car because more caster is harder to steer. What am I missing? Cool variation of the Group A product, I’ll probably have to get some someday.
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More caster gives more high speed straight ahead stability and a slower turn in. At low speeds it will cause higher steering effort. Volvo took advantage when adding power steering by using ball joints that added caster.
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“For a street car, the first or third will be the best options.

For a race car, the second or third will be the best options.”

Why do you say this? Option 2 makes more sense in my mind for a street car because more caster is harder to steer. What am I missing? Cool variation of the Group A product, I’ll probably have to get some someday.
I like having more caster in these cars, it makes them more calm on the highway and it puts a nicer weight into the steering. If anyone has these and coilover springs, position 3 is the way to go unless you need max - camber then you can get a little more in position 2 before you start cutting.
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The way I look at it, is you can get two OEM rubber mounts for 165 off FCP, which I've heard in rumor have dropped in quality, or you can get Ben's for 185.
It's not a rumor, it's a fact that the currently-supplied Volvo OE mounts are junk. I bought a set of the new crop and they began to split with zero mines on them. They were so bad that I took them out and returned them to the dealer and got a refund.

Get Ben's and you won't be disappointed.
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I like having more caster in these cars, it makes them more calm on the highway and it puts a nicer weight into the steering. If anyone has these and coilover springs, position 3 is the way to go unless you need max - camber then you can get a little more in position 2 before you start cutting.
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what type of cutting is required (ballpark) to run position 2?
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Ben, what is the ride height difference over stock with these installed?

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I like having more caster in these cars, it makes them more calm on the highway and it puts a nicer weight into the steering. If anyone has these and coilover springs, position 3 is the way to go unless you need max - camber then you can get a little more in position 2 before you start cutting.
Well, yes, more caster is more better up to a point, but I wouldn't say I'd prefer more on a street car than a race car... If the real reason is the camber can be more aggressive in position 2, then I understand. How much more caster are we talking? This should be an easily measured thing so you could state what it should be adding vs. stock mounts.

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It's not a rumor, it's a fact that the currently-supplied Volvo OE mounts are junk. I bought a set of the new crop and they began to split with zero mines on them. They were so bad that I took them out and returned them to the dealer and got a refund.
Wow, that sucks! I got some OE ones years ago and they've been fine for me for many hard miles(too low for stock length struts and too weak springs/struts). Apparently they aren't that good anymore which really sucks!
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what type of cutting is required (ballpark) to run position 2?
You can run pos 2 w/out cutting but to get full adjusment (which is more camber then most people will want) you have to clearance the strut tower for the strut shaft and also trim the edge of the strut mount.
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Ben, what is the ride height difference over stock with these installed?
For the height, this is pretty easily answered by looking on my webpage and seeing this picture.




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Well, yes, more caster is more better up to a point, but I wouldn't say I'd prefer more on a street car than a race car... If the real reason is the camber can be more aggressive in position 2, then I understand. How much more caster are we talking? This should be an easily measured thing so you could state what it should be adding vs. stock mounts.
Obviously no one wants 30 degrees of caster but this is a strut suspension and we are moving the top so you wont get that much by making changes. Certainly not enough to get past that point.

About 1 degree more. between 1-2 and 3 1 and 2 have ~.5 from stock.
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Well, yes, more caster is more better up to a point, but I wouldn't say I'd prefer more on a street car than a race car...
You should come by and drive the v8 car. It has 6deg of caster. It drives very well around PDX.
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For the height, this is pretty easily answered by looking on my webpage and seeing this picture.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/02...g?v=1448034268

Obviously no one wants 30 degrees of caster but this is a strut suspension and we are moving the top so you wont get that much by making changes. Certainly not enough to get past that point.

About 1 degree more. between 1-2 and 3 1 and 2 have ~.5 from stock.
I looked on my phone but apparently didn't come across that picture. I can't remember though, does the strut sit at the bottom(top in those pictures) of the mount as pictured? Meaning the difference is that your mount will lower the car about 1/4" from whatever it was at with the stock mounts?

And sounds good on the caster add, thanks!

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You should come by and drive the v8 car. It has 6deg of caster. It drives very well around PDX.
I'm sure it does and I agree I should! Who would say no?! Hah
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