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Old 02-05-2021, 05:26 AM   #151
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Great work with the seats! I have to fix my leather seats that suffers from ganster lean
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Old 02-12-2021, 06:35 PM   #152
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Great work with the seats! I have to fix my leather seats that suffers from ganster lean
Thank you! It was a lot easier than I thought.

I think I experienced the worst snow we've ever seen in my area since I moved here. Both major arteries to/from my town were closed down, but I dodged the mess before I could could even sit in traffic for one minute. Taking the long way home, I found that this abandoned property was an amazing view. (or lack thereof!) I'm not a photographer by any means, but I'm still glad I stopped.








My two favorites!




Made it home!


And hit 225k this morning. It's crazy to think how much I've done to this turd in under 20k.
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Old 02-13-2021, 01:22 AM   #153
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Gorgeous. I love these wagons in snow. Especially stock/stockish ones.
If your heater core is anything like mine, it makes cold weather driving so comfortable.

Keep it up, thanks for the awesome pics, one of my favorite threads by far
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Old 02-13-2021, 03:41 PM   #154
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Gorgeous. I love these wagons in snow. Especially stock/stockish ones.
If your heater core is anything like mine, it makes cold weather driving so comfortable.

Keep it up, thanks for the awesome pics, one of my favorite threads by far
Thanks! They're so capable in the snow with their length, rear drive, and skinny tires. Sadly, I can't say that this heater does amazing work. I might be spoiled and too used to newer cars, but I think the ball valve style valve is the problem. Mine is on or off with very little adjustment in the middle unless I turn the AC on. With my over cooling problems, I don't get warm until I'm about 15 minutes into my drive either. That's after warming the car up too. I wish I knew what was going on there. My only idea is set up some cardboard between the grill and radiator.

I don't mean to rant. I do appreciate the kind words. That one issue is just driving me nuts since the MPGs went down to about 19-21.
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Old 03-14-2021, 03:52 PM   #155
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I can't fix issues without creating new ones. lol This time I blame myself 100%. I was in a rush and made a newbie mistake.

The power steering has never really worked as well it's supposed to, but recently the pump started actually grinding noises and eventually gave up. Now that I'm at a solid stopping point on the Camaro with good weather I figured Id replace the pump. I apologize for not taking a lot of pictures, but I really needed to ensure that this car would be ready for work in the morning.

Before I started wrenching, I did a little inspection since I hadn't even driven the car in about a month. The fluid was very low. I wonder where it went. I flushed the system less than a year ago. Oh well. Topping off the reservoir and working the air out didn't fix it either, so in I go!

I bought the cheap GM pulley puller tool at Advance. The price reflects its quality because it doesn't work worth a crap unless you get crafty.


Forget the provided collar. It won't help you. A hose clamp tightened down close to the pulley was what gave me success.


Everything would have went fine if I didn't get antsy and use the vise to hold the pump while I installed the brackets and fitting. After removing the pulley, finding the high point, heating it up, and pounding away, I got it in a much more manageable shape. I still need a new pulley though. If anybody has a spare power steering pulley, please PM me. I'll be posting in the wanted section.
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Old 03-15-2021, 07:49 AM   #156
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I drove the car to work this morning. It turns like butter now. The only time it doesn't work well is when the car isn't moving. You can feel the wheel getting tighter then looser. I guess the car needs a rack too which would probably explain why the pump I removed didn't look that old. I'm nervous to do this, because I've heard a lot of ugly stories when it comes to remanufactured racks. I guess I'll just have to do my research.
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Old 03-29-2021, 09:15 AM   #157
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I think maintaining a daily-driven rust belt 240 in 2021 is like building a house of cards at this point. I finally got around to replacing the power steering pulley on Saturday. The results were even better than expected. I must have had some belt slip or something because the steering improved again. I only experience hard turning if I'm sitting still and jerking the wheel which is never a necessary maneuver. I'll hold off on the rack. I have more important things to worry about.

The mid-pipe has rusted out pretty badly.

What you can't see are the multiple holes which are pretty loud and throwing off the O2 sensor. I talked a lot of smack about the IPD stainless piece, and my stance remains the same even after receiving this puppy in the mail.

Just look at those bends and that abrupt merge! It may be crude and ugly, but so is the IPD thing. This one also cost under $100, so I'll call it a win. If I were worried about making it show quality or squeezing out every bit of HP, I'd for spring for one with mandrel bends. A coat of high temp paint will make this one good enough for me!

Much better.

I wouldn't have made the "house of cards" comment if I wasn't about to get a kick in the nuts though. When I went under the car to spray the manifold and catalytic converter bolts, I made a very unsightly discovery. Most 240s mark their territory with oil. Ours does this instead.



...JERK

The previous owner's floor patch did not hold up whatsoever which seems to be a revolving theme with Moose. He seems to reject new metal because my wheel arch repair from a year and a half ago isn't looking so hot either.

Frankly, this hurts. Both my fiancé and I are pretty upset about this and unsure of what to do next. What we know for sure is that I'm not cut out for keeping this car in daily service. Since the nicer weather has just began, I'm going to leave this be for a while. I'm hoping to get the Camaro done soon so that I can use it daily while Allie drives the C30. Maybe then I can fix this in the driveway? I'm not sure, but I'm very much cursing the 1/2" of undercoating that's blocking my view of what actually needs to be cut out. Let's hope the issue is fairly isolated.

For the record, I don't necessarily blame the previous owner for a hack floor repair. I do blame them for not replacing the brake octopus though. The brake fluid had been leaking for a long time and essentially dissolved the undercoating. The good news is that it will come off easily. The bad news is that it's been holding in corrosive fluid for who knows how long. I should have scraped it off a long time ago, but I didn't. Now I have a lot more work to do.

I am very discouraged, but neither Allie nor I are ready to give up on this car. We love it, and we'll get another daily driver if that's what it takes to keep road tripping Moose for the long term.
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Old 03-29-2021, 11:42 AM   #158
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Get a better shell for summer months and a subaru for winters to dissolve back into the soil?
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Old 03-29-2021, 12:12 PM   #159
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Get a better shell for summer months and a subaru for winters to dissolve back into the soil?
I cannot increase the size of the fleet. I'm already storing my Buick at her grandpa's place in the winter, and both dailies sit in the driveway. Whenever the 240 is bumped out of daily service, it's either getting sold, or replacing the Buick. We aren't a fan of either idea, but something has to go.

I do have a short term idea though. My grandpa is practically giving me his loaded up Oldsmobile so that I can sell it. I think a refurbished digital climate controller and good scrubbing would make it great driver. It only has 116k miles on it and no rust. Perhaps I could drive that for a while while I patch the floor in the 240? Then I can sell the Olds at the end of the summer. I didn't really want to retitle and register it, but I should still be making money on the deal.
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Sell the Olds and pay someone to weld your floor
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Old 04-02-2021, 10:26 AM   #161
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I made a massive mess out of the Camaro while waiting for parts. Instead of being patient like a normal person, I decided to turn to the rustiest car in the fleet and start taking it apart too. I'm special, but I'm also tired of this thing being noisy and running poorly.

Lucky for me, the manifold side came apart nice and easily. The catalytic converter pipe also slid out of the muffler without a fuss.


The muffler side is acting in a traditional midwest sort of way though. The mid-pipe was only a year or two away from falling right off. I'm shocked that this wasn't incredibly noisy, but the clamp was blocking the massive crack. Maybe this was the buzzing under acceleration noise I've been hunting down forever?


Anyway, separating the catalytic converter from the down-pipe was not simple either. Those bolt heads had rusted down a few mm


Still not pretty but it will work!


Back to the new down-pipe. The Walker unit comes with an air injection plug but it's so long that it nearly touches the other side of the pipe. I just cut it down.


...and installed tight with copper antiseize. I don't really know why I did that instead of just welding it on, but I guess I can install air injection if I ever wanted to for some dumb reason.


Walker also welds in an o2 bung for the degenerates who are removing catalytic converters. I plugged this as well, but I'll want to keep it serviceable in case a future exhaust requires a new bung. Don't mind my buddy's vandalism.


The plan for whenever I decide it's late enough in the day to be grinding metal is to weld an adapter on to the muffler, install a new clamp, and bolt the rest back up! Should be simple. I guess we'll see!
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Old 04-02-2021, 02:37 PM   #162
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I honestly can't believe I'm done already.








It fits! Not only that, but my connection to the cat is leak free. To top it all off, I was right about everything! That buzz under acceleration is gone, and the engine goes up to operating temp again. I'm super excited about all that, but I'll admit that the job wasn't perfect. moving the back section of the exhaust around so much resulted in a leak between the two mufflers where the clamp rusted out. No big deal. The car is still much quieter than before, and the most pressing non-floor related issues are solved!
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Old 04-03-2021, 06:01 PM   #163
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Great job. I'm gonna have the same battle as you on the floor of the 145. Except yours will probably come out much nicer.

Keep it up, I love this car.
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Old 04-03-2021, 09:50 PM   #164
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Great job. I'm gonna have the same battle as you on the floor of the 145. Except yours will probably come out much nicer.

Keep it up, I love this car.
Thanks man. We'll see. I'll for sure keep at it, but it's also deteriorating faster than I can fix it.

By the way, that comment I made about not blaming the previous for a shoddy repair? I'm retracting it. It's hard to tell exactly whats going on but it appears that this patch was attached with RTV. It's no longer any wonder why the patch rusted out and nothing else.

Right now the plan is to turn the Oldsmobile around pretty quickly. I want to clean it really well, get the blower motor working, and flip it. That money is going to go directly toward a new daily for the fiance, because this car can't handle salt anymore.
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The temperature issue isn't as gone as I thought it was. It was warm out (70s-80s) when I made the observation. Once the temps went down into the 50s again the temp gauge started going back to its 8:00ish position. So weird. I might have to go back to my maintenance thread and review the replies.

Also, I have a new cat-back exhaust on the way. Stock stuff.
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Old 04-23-2021, 08:35 AM   #166
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I was at a great stopping point on the Camaro, and the 240 was in need of an oil change. I decided to take advantage of the stars aligning and knock a few things out.

I first cut that nice little muffler adapter I made, and removed the old exhaust.


There goes another rattle!


New Starla exhaust from IPD is in!


So far, I'm a fan! It fits really nicely, comes with all the hangers, and is very quiet. Since it's an under axle system, I'm probably going to weld the rear muffler on. It should still be easy to take apart. Plus, it will help with future rust, and the little leak that one of the clamps won't close up.


I also finally decided to remove the jello trans mount and replace it with the stock rubber one I've been holding onto for a couple years. The car shifts so much better now!




While the car sounds and feels much better, it's hard to be distracted from the rust problems. I absolutely plan to fix, but I haven't figured out how I'm going to pull this car off the road again. One thing is for sure. My fiance needs a new daily driver. We both love this car too much to get rid of it, it's just too darn rusty to be relied on every day. In addition to the rust hole, there's a mysterious oil leak that coats the entire driver side of the block and strut tower, and the rubber accessory bushings I installed last year are already wasted. That's just the start of it, yet none of this stuff scares me. I really want to fix all of it and toss it back on the road for another 30 years worth of vacationing. I just don't know how I'm going to get a new car AND keep this one. I'm either going to be plying an endless game of musical cars, or I'm going to need a new place to store vehicles long-term. We'll see. For now, we keep driving!

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Not much to report. Rust never gets better without doing anything about it but I have stopped worrying about it for the time being. As it turns out, the hole is all under the seat pan so the carpet never even gets wet in big rain storms. I'll just plan to fix this thing over the winter. If I'm unable to drive the Camaro by that time, Tremec is going to have an earful...

Anyway, I don't have much new to say. The car is still a daily driver and doing everything we need it to do. It even hauled 800 lbs of sand home last week. We did start to notice that it was acting a bit sluggish though. In additions the cruise control was very hit/miss, the washer pump wasn't working, and the final straw in my decision to start repairing again was that it started and died a couple times over the weekend. I'm driving it this week to sort it all out, but I guess I really only needed to pop the hood and inspect.

Obviously the tee to the washer broke, but there was also a split vacuum line which draws from the cruise and HVAC controls. I'm shocked that it was enough to cause the engine to die, but given the noticeably smoother and quicker starts I'm getting now I can't question it anymore!

I love this car to death. With a new daily driver coming just over the horizon, I can finally start looking forward to pulling this car off the road for light modifications, body restoration, interior refreshment, and extreme detailing. I just need to continue being patient.
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Continuing on with the little details while I ignore the gaping hole in the floor.

I didn't realize that these could be installed in less than 15 minutes! What a great product! Thanks goes to 15A for solving my clunk and prolonging the need for new upper strut mounts.








Yeah, I know the car is still a rusty monster, but I am super happy with the restored ride quality. No more clunking! If my Camaro transmission had showed up when it was supposed to, I would have the 240 floor mostly repaired by now. Oh well. I'm not terribly worried about it yet anyway. So far, the carpet stays dry even when driving through heavy rain.
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Nice progress!

I need to do the upper strut mount reinforcing plates and have shied away from the the job having never tackled the front suspension myself.

15 minutes? Please explain how. Just dropping the struts and slipping the plate over the top?
No spring compressor needed?

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Nice progress!

I need to do the upper strut mount reinforcing plates and have shied away from the the job having never tackled the front suspension myself.

15 minutes? Please explain how. Just dropping the struts and slipping the plate over the top?
No spring compressor needed?

Thanks.
Thanks!

That's exactly it! No compressor needed. Keep in mind that you'll want to drop both at the same time so that you aren't fighting the sway bar. Before you drop the struts, mark where the banana washers is in relation to the towers so that your camber remains close after you bolt everything back together. Then if you drop the struts down as far as you can and pull them all the way to the outside, you can finagle the plate in from the engine side. The hardest part is keeping the top of the mount from spinning while you try to get the plate on all three studs.

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That's exactly it! No compressor needed. Keepin mind you'll want to drop both at the same time so that you aren't fighting the sway bar. Before you drop the struts, mark where the banana washers is in relation to the towers so that your camber remains close after you bolt everything back together. Then if you drop the struts down as far as you can and pull them all the way to the outside, you can finagle the plate in from the engine side. The hardest part is keeping the top of the mount from spinning while you try to get the plate on all three studs.
Great! Thank you for the explanation. I need to tackle this on the grey wagon.
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Continuing on with the basic mods. I think I found my new best bang-for-buck part!




I hate when I have to wait for a pop-up storm to pass over just so that I can retrieve the jack stands. I guess I could have gotten soaked, but I wasn't THAT excited.




So I waited and enjoyed the freshly cooled air while I sipped on one of my favorite IPAs. By the way, Sun King Brewery in Indianapolis has half price growler fills every Friday. Since this stuff is already cheap, I can fill my jug for $6. Can't beat that!


Anyway, Josh isn't kidding when he says that these frame ties are a must for any 240 owner. At first, I couldn't believe how much more predictable the car handled, braked, and even accelerated. Then I remembered the terrible locations of the four measly bolts holding the k-member in place. It's very believable now. I never thought that I would be able to enjoy a "spirited" drive in an NA 240 without bigger sway bars and lower ride height, but I absolutely did yesterday. I was actually able to break the rear end loose while flooring it in a wet roundabout!
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I'm so proud. The car runs and rides better than it ever has since buying it too. Age (and mileage) is just a number!
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Jinx! The car does not run better than ever. It's actually kinda intermittently low on power, but usually pretty bad. I decided to get a vacuum/pressure gauge to see if I could get a clue.


I ordered an intake gasket, throttle gasket, and injector o-rings. Hopefully, that stuff will get me in the green and fix my cruise control.
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I replaced all the intake seals today. I can't say it went well yet, but we'll get to that. The day started with the observance of a broken distributor cap. It's only a year and half old, but those spring clamps sure are tough to get on. Anybody else had this issue?




Gross CSI. That sealing oring was as hard as a rock too.


That's better. New copper seals were used too.


While I was here, I wanted to replace the gauge temp sender and crimp a new terminal on the wire. The gauge has not read up to operating temperature in several months.


I cleaned the flame trap as well.


...and the throttle body.




I thought this was kind of funny. What I'm showing you is WOT. The linkage jam nuts were loose which allowed the rod to relax. I decided to fix that too. Maybe the car will run better.


There we go.


It's all back together now, but I can't take a celebratory "done" picture. The car doesn't run now. I'm a bit exhausted from all the heat and leaning over, so I took a break. All I know is that I did not have spark on my tester at number one or on the coil wire. I apparently lost my noid light so that's cool. I don't have any fuel leaks so I guess that's a win assuming that my pumps are even coming on. Sigh. I hear them working with the fuse jumping trick though and it would be really bad luck for them to stop now. I can't think of anything I might have disturbed that would stop this thing from running, but I'm also not very fluent in LH.

Could I have screwed up the CPS? The wires have looked like garbage since we bought the car.


What about the TPS adjustment? I turned it all the way clockwise, then turned it back until I heard the click and clamped it down. I also heard that the LH really likes seeing the ECT? What would I have done?!

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