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Old 03-15-2021, 01:18 AM   #26
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Thats funny how do you order parts for it? I need front oil seal for my whatchamacallit tranny. Its a 4Speed OD that´s all I have.
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Old 03-15-2021, 01:26 AM   #27
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Old 03-15-2021, 01:28 AM   #28
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Thats funny how do you order parts for it? I need front oil seal for my whatchamacallit tranny. Its a 4Speed OD that´s all I have.
When you're smart enough to know that a 4 speed with OD is an M46.


But basically you don't because it's so obscure.



Pilot bearing,bell housing, flywheel, and clutch stuff is different though...


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Old 03-15-2021, 02:53 AM   #29
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Something something top end oil starvation Peugeot Renault Volvo turd go BOOM!

Of course they fixed it on the later 6cyl engines but the damage to the 6cyl's reputation was done.
As a mechanic poetically put it to me when I was first looking at a 6 cylinder 240 "That engine is one of the greatest boat anchors ever designed"

I for one LOVE the 262 Bertone - but it would be a project for a drive train replacement and it would have to have an interior in good shape which is so rare.
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As a mechanic poetically put it to me when I was first looking at a 6 cylinder 240 "That engine is one of the greatest boat anchors ever designed"

I for one LOVE the 262 Bertone - but it would be a project for a drive train replacement and it would have to have an interior in good shape which is so rare.


The Italian bordello leather interior was sooo trendy back in the 80's.
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Old 03-15-2021, 02:14 PM   #31
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The Italian bordello leather interior was sooo trendy back in the 80's.
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Old 03-15-2021, 02:36 PM   #32
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The Italian bordello leather interior was sooo trendy back in the 80's.
I wonder if John Holmes owned one. Eew....
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Old 03-15-2021, 03:14 PM   #33
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My first Volvo was a 1980 264. I knew nothing about Volvos but was willing to learn. First time I went to a n mechanic for some service he said to me either you learn to make a lot of money or you learn to fix your own car. Back in day if you owned an import car garages would rake you over the coals!
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Old 03-15-2021, 10:19 PM   #34
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Rumor was P R V all needed a engine for up coming vehicles. They all found rookie engineers fresh out of school. They were given some cheap wine rotten cheese stale bread and were locked in a rubber room so that’s how the P R V engine was created.
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I wonder if John Holmes owned one. Eew....
No but David Bowie did.

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Old 03-16-2021, 05:20 PM   #36
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Considering the engine was raced at LeMan, used on the Delorean and many other vehicles
there seems to be quite a bit of hate towards the PRV. Later 2.8 look pretty decent on paper.
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Old 03-16-2021, 07:24 PM   #37
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All 240 people hate 260 engines. If you want 3 pedals you'll will really need to search. A few of these cars were 4 speed, very few.
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Old 03-16-2021, 07:46 PM   #38
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I can remember only two. Black on black.still owned by a Federal Judge. Blue on black. We also sold a few 262 m46.
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Old 03-16-2021, 08:42 PM   #39
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Get a late 760 (must be some still out there) & swap the B280, EMS & auto trans into the 262. B280 with LH2.2 was way more reliable than B27/28 & K-Jet

I killed my last 262 (took the nose off) to fix my crunched '85 245Ti :D
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Old 03-16-2021, 09:25 PM   #40
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The AW70/71 overdrive transmission used from 1982 on will directly swap with the BW55 in your car. Unfortunately, the PRV V6 bell housing is required and it only was used for a few years up to 1984. That leaves about a 2 year window to find a PRV/AW70 bell housing together. Because of the very high failure rate of the PRV engines most of those opportunities are long gone.

The PRV issue was that there was inadaquate oil pressure, with oil that was far inferior to what is available today, on the cams which became round with miles. If you have a still working PRV then current magic synthenic oil will allow it to run for a long time.

I did that search and found a reported good AW70 that came with red fluid and slant 4 bell housing. Then searched for a PRV bell housing. The PRV bell housing will mate with the AW70/71 transmission case.

Info can be found on this in this thread: http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=293078

JohnLane would be happy to help you turbo the PRV if you want.

The most popular swap today is an LSx. I did a Ford 302 into a 245 that is much more than adequate for most driving needs.

Both the engine swap and the Bertone restoration linked below.

I also know where there are two complete 262c Bertone interiors that might be for sale.
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Old 03-16-2021, 09:31 PM   #41
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Considering the engine was raced at LeMan, used on the Delorean and many other vehicles there seems to be quite a bit of hate towards the PRV. Later 2.8 look pretty decent on paper.
The PRV was also used by Winabago in a line of RV's in the 80's. I believe that just about 100% of the engines were replaced under warranty. The vehicle was much too heavy for the engine design.
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Prv bell housing on tbricks right now http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=359594
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One more little note on auto transmission conversion if you are going OD auto;

The AW70 with a PRV bell housing was only produced in '82-'83 with a mechanical speedometer cable. As mentioned, this time frame did not produce many survivor 260 PRV cars.

I had a decent AW70 OD transmission but had to find the PRV bell housing and then . . . and then . . . had to find a mechanical speedometer cable tail housing to complete the job.
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Why wouldn't you look for a 760 AW71? There were many (most) 760 V6's....
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Old 03-24-2021, 03:50 PM   #47
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That way you would only have to swap out the tail housing.

Don't forget, you are going to have to shorten the front section of the drive shaft.

I started out looking for those 2 years of correct front and rear parts, couldn't find any and the transmission would be shot anyway. Ended up swapping both ends but that wasn't so hard.
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As a mechanic poetically put it to me when I was first looking at a 6 cylinder 240 "That engine is one of the greatest boat anchors ever designed"

I for one LOVE the 262 Bertone - but it would be a project for a drive train replacement and it would have to have an interior in good shape which is so rare.
Meh... Lousy boat anchor. Aluminum not heavy enough.
They made money for shops when cars were young enough that clients would spend on them.
Lots of cheesewad ‘cam and rocker arm kits’ were available back in the day... most with cams poorly finished that wore away in 5000 miles even with fresh oil.
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JohnLane would be happy to help you turbo the PRV if you want.

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There was a time when that was true. I’ll happily help you Tom.
This guy is done with time wasters who won’t ever finish a project that was a big effort when parts were more readily available and I was interested in them.

OP.... Search nOOb. Lots of information right here on TB.

Enjoy your project.
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