Electric Fan Conversion - Page 28

thebornotaku · 02-16-2015, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jorn

Mine does that sometimes and on a very hot day it will even do it after 10 minutes. Doesn't effect anything.

When I had my 240, my fan would cycle 2-3 times for 5-10 minutes after it was shut off. Didn't hurt the battery or anything.

will740turbo · 02-24-2015, 03:31 PM

Found a 940 with e-fan at the JY. About to leave town, but for $35 I want to grab it.

It has a fan controlled mounted behind the right headlight. 2-speed .....

Does anyone run a 2-speed fan, or does everyone just use the low-only?

Jorn · 02-25-2015, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by will740turbo

Found a 940 with e-fan at the JY. About to leave town, but for $35 I want to grab it.

It has a fan controlled mounted behind the right headlight. 2-speed .....

Does anyone run a 2-speed fan, or does everyone just use the low-only?

I use the low only, works fine in Southern California. Needle never moves passed the 12 O'Clock position.

turbotankshane · 02-26-2015, 01:24 AM

Yeah low speed has kept mine plenty cool, but high speed is set up on a dash switch just in case.

DMFWallace · 02-26-2015, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorn

I use the low only, works fine in Southern California. Needle never moves passed the 12 O'Clock position.

... you mean 9 o' clock?

Jorn · 02-26-2015, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DMFWallace

... you mean 9 o' clock?

Needle is always straight up, half up the scale.

thebornotaku · 03-31-2015, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DMFWallace

... you mean 9 o' clock?

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Originally Posted by Jorn

Needle is always straight up, half up the scale.

the confusion here is that "halfway" on 240s is 9 o'clock and "halfway" on 7's is 12 o'clock.

iHateVolvoPeople · 04-16-2015, 04:50 PM

iHateVolvoPeople · 04-16-2015, 05:01 PM

It seems like the most logical place to put a switch is in the lower radiator hose or the passenger side of the radiator. After the coolant has run through the radiator, if it hasn't cooled down enough then the fan will come on. If it's pre radiator, I feel like it's come on too early? I'm definitely overthinking this, just curious what affect location has.
I will use the new radiators port rather than the ecu. I think having the switch on the passenger side of the radiator will be most effective because it'll show when the radiator no longer has the ability to cool the coolant down to the given temperature WITHOUT a the help of a fan. /babling.

photoman327 · 05-03-2015, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 93Volvo240

It seems like the most logical place to put a switch is in the lower radiator hose or the passenger side of the radiator. After the coolant has run through the radiator, if it hasn't cooled down enough then the fan will come on. If it's pre radiator, I feel like it's come on too early? I'm definitely overthinking this, just curious what affect location has.
I will use the new radiators port rather than the ecu. I think having the switch on the passenger side of the radiator will be most effective because it'll show when the radiator no longer has the ability to cool the coolant down to the given temperature WITHOUT a the help of a fan. /babling.

I have my switch ther and I like the switch in the lower hose better. Location in the radiator is a cleaner look.

iHateVolvoPeople · 05-03-2015, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by photoman327

I have my switch ther and I like the switch in the lower hose better. Location in the radiator is a cleaner look.

Yeah idk I was being retarded that day. I ordered a 'probe' switch (with adjustable engagement) and will be using it to trigger the low speed relay on the 940 e-fan.
http://www.amazon.com/Flex-lite-3114.../dp/B00029J3ZW

photoman327 · 05-05-2015, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 93Volvo240

Yeah idk I was being retarded that day. I ordered a 'probe' switch (with adjustable engagement) and will be using it to trigger the low speed relay on the 940 e-fan.
http://www.amazon.com/Flex-lite-3114.../dp/B00029J3ZW

I think I have one like that that someone sold me still unused. I did have a Hayden adjustable switch that went south will in Chicago and I was luck that I caught it. Been use a A single switch ever since. Plan to try a VW two switch just to take advantage of the two speed Volvo fan. Mine is in the radiator right now but going back to the lower hose. Seem to work better for me in that location.

iHateVolvoPeople · 05-06-2015, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by photoman327

I think I have one like that that someone sold me still unused. I did have a Hayden adjustable switch that went south will in Chicago and I was luck that I caught it. Been use a A single switch ever since. Plan to try a VW two switch just to take advantage of the two speed Volvo fan. Mine is in the radiator right now but going back to the lower hose. Seem to work better for me in that location.

I think some people use it to trigger the fan itself rather than a relay and it gets burned up. Mine will just be used to trigger the low speed relay on the 940 fan.

will740turbo · 05-06-2015, 03:37 AM

Someone posted this switch a while ago. Supposed to have the same threading as our screw-in rad switches (M14x1.5, I believe), but has a dual-range switch.

Great. But here's the thing. Low speed is on at 85, off at 80. High speed is on at 93, off at 88.
If it hits 93, does it ground both pins and run both high and low circuits simultaneously?
Is there a way around this? You could do fancy wiring so the high speed switch runs a 5-pin relay and the input 30 pin feeds say 87a and then the relay for the low-speed relay and switches the power to 87 when the high speed switch trips.
I think I just answered my own question, but it's past my bedtime.

Here's the switch: http://www.germanautoparts.com/productdisplay/19404

iHateVolvoPeople · 05-06-2015, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by will740turbo

Someone posted this switch a while ago. Supposed to have the same threading as our screw-in rad switches (M14x1.5, I believe), but has a dual-range switch.

Great. But here's the thing. Low speed is on at 85, off at 80. High speed is on at 93, off at 88.
If it hits 93, does it ground both pins and run both high and low circuits simultaneously?
Is there a way around this? You could do fancy wiring so the high speed switch runs a 5-pin relay and the input 30 pin feeds say 87a and then the relay for the low-speed relay and switches the power to 87 when the high speed switch trips.
I think I just answered my own question, but it's past my bedtime.

Here's the switch: http://www.germanautoparts.com/productdisplay/19404

You could wire it up how you want. The 'switch' is just a ground that completes the circuit. On the 940 e fan you can have the big red +12 wire on the + terminal and the black one on the negative terminal..but the fan won't come on. You have to ground one of the smaller wires that trigger the relay in order for it to come on.

iHateVolvoPeople · 05-06-2015, 02:45 PM

People say to use a 740 turbo shroud (still a mechanical fan shroud) but some have also used the 940 e fan shroud trimmed down. I don't think it would be a good idea to get rid of the 'flaps' in the shroud, so how is it shortened?

will740turbo · 05-06-2015, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 93Volvo240

You could wire it up how you want. The 'switch' is just a ground that completes the circuit. On the 940 e fan you can have the big red +12 wire on the + terminal and the black one on the negative terminal..but the fan won't come on. You have to ground one of the smaller wires that trigger the relay in order for it to come on.

Yep. What I'm saying is what happens if both switches are grounded and both relays are on and both hi/low circuits are running. Is that going to burn out the fan?

I drew up a diagram last night of it. Should work, but the low-speed fan relay trigger feed will always be hot. So Low-speed fan will run with car off, but the relay shouldn't be drawing power while it's in its NC position.

photoman327 · 05-06-2015, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 93Volvo240

I think some people use it to trigger the fan itself rather than a relay and it gets burned up. Mine will just be used to trigger the low speed relay on the 940 fan.

That is what I did!

photoman327 · 05-06-2015, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 93Volvo240

People say to use a 740 turbo shroud (still a mechanical fan shroud) but some have also used the 940 e fan shroud trimmed down. I don't think it would be a good idea to get rid of the 'flaps' in the shroud, so how is it shortened?

I picked up a turbo shroud that fit my radiator then took the 940,850 fan out and mounted it in the turbo shroud. Looks factory except I had the first two nuts to the outside. Noticed it and put the last two to the inside. Still have not gone back and fixed that.

iHateVolvoPeople · 05-06-2015, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by photoman327

I picked up a turbo shroud that fit my radiator then took the 940,850 fan out and mounted it in the turbo shroud. Looks factory except I had the first two nuts to the outside. Noticed it and put the last two to the inside. Still have not gone back and fixed that.

Where did you get your shroud? What vehicle? And I assume you did this conversion on a 240.

photoman327 · 05-06-2015, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 93Volvo240

Where did you get your shroud? What vehicle? And I assume you did this conversion on a 240.

Nashville pull a part. 940 turbo but did not look at the year.

iHateVolvoPeople · 05-07-2015, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by photoman327

Nashville pull a part. 940 turbo but did not look at the year.

940 shroud on a 240 is too long I thought?

photoman327 · 05-07-2015, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 93Volvo240

940 shroud on a 240 is too long I thought?

Think you are right! What ever it is , it a perfect fit.

iHateVolvoPeople · 05-08-2015, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by photoman327

Think you are right! What ever it is , it a perfect fit.

I hacked the 940 shroud and left 1 inch open on one side so air could get through. At first I left no airways and it got warm on the highway. Cutting that 1 inch off brought it back to normal temperatures. It also stays cool with the fan on even with that gaping 1" hole

photoman327 · 05-09-2015, 01:19 AM

I had a 940 fan and modified it and now that I think on it a little if was a 740 turbo that had the shoe shroud. I have a couple of the 240 off set turbo shrouds that will work but more bulk. Plan to take a look and see i Like it with a electric fan. I could mount a electric fan in the same way.

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02-24-2015, 03:31 PM	#677
will740turbo Board Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Portland, OR	Found a 940 with e-fan at the JY. About to leave town, but for $35 I want to grab it. It has a fan controlled mounted behind the right headlight. 2-speed ..... Does anyone run a 2-speed fan, or does everyone just use the low-only?

02-26-2015, 01:24 AM	#679
turbotankshane Board Member Join Date: Aug 2010	Yeah low speed has kept mine plenty cool, but high speed is set up on a dash switch just in case.

05-06-2015, 03:37 AM	#689
will740turbo Board Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Portland, OR	Someone posted this switch a while ago. Supposed to have the same threading as our screw-in rad switches (M14x1.5, I believe), but has a dual-range switch. Great. But here's the thing. Low speed is on at 85, off at 80. High speed is on at 93, off at 88. If it hits 93, does it ground both pins and run both high and low circuits simultaneously? Is there a way around this? You could do fancy wiring so the high speed switch runs a 5-pin relay and the input 30 pin feeds say 87a and then the relay for the low-speed relay and switches the power to 87 when the high speed switch trips. I think I just answered my own question, but it's past my bedtime. Here's the switch: http://www.germanautoparts.com/productdisplay/19404

05-06-2015, 02:45 PM	#691
iHateVolvoPeople Board Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Midwest	People say to use a 740 turbo shroud (still a mechanical fan shroud) but some have also used the 940 e fan shroud trimmed down. I don't think it would be a good idea to get rid of the 'flaps' in the shroud, so how is it shortened?

05-09-2015, 01:19 AM	#700
photoman327 Board Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North Alabama	I had a 940 fan and modified it and now that I think on it a little if was a 740 turbo that had the shoe shroud. I have a couple of the 240 off set turbo shrouds that will work but more bulk. Plan to take a look and see i Like it with a electric fan. I could mount a electric fan in the same way.