home register FAQ memberlist calendar

Go Back   Turbobricks Forums > Mechanical > performance & modifications

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-03-2021, 04:58 PM   #1
Msi
Board Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: TLV, IL
Default Ford 2.3L Lima MS + Harness - can it work for stock 940 2.3T?

Hello fellow TBs,

I found this -

https://www.stinger-performance.com/...t-pnp-2.3-ford

"Microsquirt Plug & Play Standalone Engine Management + Harness for 2.3L"

This is for the Ford Lima 2.3L engine, N/A and Turbo.

For 650USD it includes:

-Microsquirt EFI Controller
-Complete Engine Harness
-3 Bar MAP Sensor
-Intake Air Temp (IAT) Sensor
-MAP Hose
-Base Tune
-Startup Guide (11 pages)

I ran an inquiry with them about the harness and they replied:

"The harness is wired for a factory Ford coil and a tfi distributer not your crank sensor. All microsquirt wires exist in our harness"

My questions are:

How complicated would it be to adopt this to a stock 2.0/2.3 940 Turbo?

Does the price seems fair for the deal?

Thanks in advance!!
Msi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2021, 05:51 PM   #2
Sir Bricks-A-Lot
Board Member
 
Sir Bricks-A-Lot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Aylmer, Quebec
Default

If you're really looking for a plug & play setup, why not support a forum member who has a proven solution?

http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=144251
Sir Bricks-A-Lot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2021, 06:13 PM   #3
Msi
Board Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: TLV, IL
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Bricks-A-Lot View Post
If you're really looking for a plug & play setup, why not support a forum member who has a proven solution?

http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=144251
In fact, I have already acquired a PnP setup from Kenny.

There is a difference between the two solutions though - what I've posted is a full standalone harness that does not make use of the 20+ year old original LH2.4 harness.
Msi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2021, 07:22 PM   #4
90volvo
Board Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Eldorado Springs Mo.
Default

Kennys pnp is top notch. Ive ran the pnp was simple to hook up and he was quick to answer any questions.
__________________
90 Volvo 240-my current setup.
B230ft rebuilt -MS-Turbo-E85

1985 240 Work in progress.

sons car- 93 240-15g turbo-chipped-95,000 miles. Slick car

Leave feedback- http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=355413
90volvo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2021, 02:55 AM   #5
Msi
Board Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: TLV, IL
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 90volvo View Post
Kennys pnp is top notch. Ive ran the pnp was simple to hook up and he was quick to answer any questions.
Absolutely agree.

I'm looking into a full standalone harness because I'd like to remove all OEM electronics from the car and I'm too lazy to build a harness from scratch.

Hence the question I posted.
Msi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2021, 03:28 AM   #6
mocambique-amazone
Board Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Germany
Default

Buy a 240 LH2.4 loom new and the ms from Kenny: done
mocambique-amazone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2021, 09:31 AM   #7
90volvo
Board Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Eldorado Springs Mo.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Msi View Post
Absolutely agree.

I'm looking into a full standalone harness because I'd like to remove all OEM electronics from the car and I'm too lazy to build a harness from scratch.

Hence the question I posted.
My car had an engine fire when I was running PNP play from kenny. Instead of buying another harness, I built mine. It wasnt hard but time consuming, it helped me learn alot about MS. If you dont want to build one, I bet kenny would put one together for you. Just my guess. That ford harness does look tempting though.
90volvo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2021, 11:18 AM   #8
h20ham
Board Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: House
Default

I had contacted Stinger months ago, hoping they could make a Duratec work. The Lima is strong, 50 years ago.
Without the headaches of MS, there dont seem to be any easy answers.
__________________
How did you get here
h20ham is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2021, 03:14 PM   #9
rb92673
Board Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: San Clemente
Default

Yoshifab might have a plug and play Microsquirt harness for LH 2.4 that doesn't use the existing loom. I saw one for LH 2.2 he was testing.
rb92673 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2021, 07:40 PM   #10
Msi
Board Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: TLV, IL
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mocambique-amazone View Post
Buy a 240 LH2.4 loom new and the ms from Kenny: done
You mean something like this ?
https://www.classicswede.co.uk/LH24_..._17591997.aspx
Msi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2021, 07:42 PM   #11
Msi
Board Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: TLV, IL
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 90volvo View Post
If you dont want to build one, I bet kenny would put one together for you. Just my guess.
Now why did I not think of that. Great advice!!
Msi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2021, 07:52 PM   #12
Msi
Board Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: TLV, IL
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rb92673 View Post
Yoshifab might have a plug and play Microsquirt harness for LH 2.4 that doesn't use the existing loom. I saw one for LH 2.2 he was testing.
Didn't find any alike. Have a link?
Msi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2021, 10:36 PM   #13
bobxyz
Board Member
 
bobxyz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Boulder CO
Default

The 8 foot MicroSquirt harness from DIY has nice labels on every wire. This makes building the harness easier.

While the Ford plug&play harness might work, I'd expect that there will be excess wire length in some places and not enough wire length in others, unless the manifold and sensor locations are very close between the two engines. In other words, it may look ugly and will still require modification to fit.
__________________
'85 245glt b21ft aw71 k-jet -> lh2.4
bobxyz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2021, 04:21 AM   #14
Msi
Board Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: TLV, IL
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobxyz View Post
I'd expect that there will be excess wire length in some places and not enough wire length in others, unless the manifold and sensor locations are very close between the two engines. In other words, it may look ugly and will still require modification to fit.
That's a good point.
Msi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2021, 10:51 AM   #15
rb92673
Board Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: San Clemente
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Msi View Post
Didn't find any alike. Have a link?
info@yoshifab.com

or try Kenny

or just order the 8' harness and all the connectors and sensors from Rockauto and make your own.
rb92673 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2021, 02:15 PM   #16
bobxyz
Board Member
 
bobxyz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Boulder CO
Default

FYI - if you don't like the look or robustness of black split loom harness wrap, you can buy high-temperature non-shrink harness tubing by the meter from digikey - search for: Raychem NETM1000. It's flat black, instead of shiny, and only goes up to ~1/2" I.D.
bobxyz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2021, 05:46 PM   #17
Msi
Board Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: TLV, IL
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rb92673 View Post

or just order the 8' harness and all the connectors and sensors from Rockauto and make your own.
Oh man, I was not aware of Rockauto. Thank you!! This makes me a happier TB owner
Msi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2021, 11:14 AM   #18
rb92673
Board Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: San Clemente
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Msi View Post
Oh man, I was not aware of Rockauto. Thank you!! This makes me a happier TB owner
If it makes it easier, here are the sensors and connectors I ordered from Rock Auto:
DELPHI PS10081 Manifold Pressure (MAP) Sensor
DELPHI TS10077 Air Intake / Charge Temperature Sensor
WVE/AIRTEX/WELLS 1P1016 Air Intake / Charge Temperature Sensor Connector
STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS HP3980 Fuel Injector Connector
BOSCH 0280122001 Throttle Position Sensor (TPS)
WVE/AIRTEX/WELLS 1P1421 Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) Connector

I don't know how to connect your sensor for flywheel position.
rb92673 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2021, 12:21 PM   #19
culberro
Ronald Culberbone III
 
culberro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Portland, OR
Default

Prowire USA has all the bare connectors for substantially cheaper if you want a clean install, and you get neat heat shrink labels for everything:

https://prowireusa.com/c-84-misc-connector-kits.html

https://prowireusa.com/p-3723-4-cyl-...-90-boots.html
__________________
Cult Person. Pissing in your Kool-Aid.
culberro is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:22 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.