T5 done, good news and bad

coondog240 · 08-21-2004, 01:48 AM

Finished the T5 swap tonight. I started w/ a '94 WC gearbox, which has a longer input shaft than earlier ones, so I put a new input shaft in it, turns out this year had reverse syncros.

I purchased my clutch components from John Parker he got me clutchnet's dual diaphram Pressure Plate 100% over stock balanced on to one of his 9lb aluminum flywheels/ with a carbon disc, and a Mcleod long TO bearing w/ fork adapters.

Everything installed perfectly, I was a little worried that I might have some clutch issues like the pioneers of this swap had. But the bugs have been worked out and the set up I have now works flawlessly. The clutch does its job correctly and noise free.

I made the mount that Noah posted a pic of in another thread.
And I had a 1pc. drive shaft made 46 3/8" center to center U-joints, 3" diameter.
Everything works beautifully, no complaints feels like the car came from the factory like that, but I am getting the same decel buzz noise that Dave B. has. And I don't really know why, but I can live with it.
I give this swap an A+.
-Jeremy

Oh, and if you can swing it get the aluminum flywheel it is a drastic improvement over stock.

mfpmax · 08-21-2004, 06:37 AM

Holy crap...reverse syncrhos! I could use that about now.

grizlyadams · 08-21-2004, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mfpmax

Holy crap...reverse syncrhos! I could use that about now.

nice.....just like to point out that the M90 has syncrhos on reverse.....

Griz

Hank Scorpio · 08-21-2004, 10:31 AM

Coondog, I believe I got one of the first improved clutches that dropped in and worked. Mine was flawless. Every time we do a swap, the closer we get.

Now, I see your tranny sits at a slightly angle just like mine. I wonder if that could be part of the problem w/ the noise? (which btw, we all have). Seems to me, JP could rotate his milling 2-3* on the adapter to help line that up a bit better. Not really a huge issue, the motor mounts are so soft when you bolt it down that it levels out.

Does that have the .8 or .6OD? Over all pretty happy I'd assume!.. right?

coondog240 · 08-21-2004, 11:03 AM

yeah I noticed it was on an angle too, I was thinking of elongating the holes for the mount and sliding it over.
This tranny has the .68 5th. And I will be swapping a 4.11 rearend from my Gt into my car soon.

reeferman · 08-21-2004, 11:21 AM

nice install

t-5 is the way to go.i road in a 92 mustang with a wc t-5 he put in a year ago.sounds just like mine.the sound is not a volvo thing.

tony

mikep · 08-21-2004, 11:35 AM

As long as it isn't a cruise noise I wouldn't sweat it.

I had a bunch of the early T5s apart for blocker rings in the 80s. The newer ones are great.

coondog240 · 08-21-2004, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by reeferman

nice install

t-5 is the way to go.i road in a 92 mustang with a wc t-5 he put in a year ago.sounds just like mine.the sound is not a volvo thing.

tony

So you think that it is a T5 noise that is not related to our volvo's, but any car with a T5?

mfpmax · 08-22-2004, 12:02 AM

Yeah, I think that buzz is normal. Before I swapped in my ...mustang... I read about auto to manual conversions and they say its normal. Mine certainly is a noisey bugger but my pilot bearing is the cause mostly.

GM Syncromesh "may" quiet it up, but it wasn't designed for it, but some sware by it.

Chigga 744SE · 08-22-2004, 12:23 AM

it eliminates that annoying 2nd gear grind on MKII's.

Qc_Drifter · 08-22-2004, 11:29 PM

By T5 do you mean the Turbo 5 cylinder ?!?!!?

If yes, in which car is the T5 now ?!

And to reeferman , You swapped a T5 Volvo engine in a Mustang ?!

Any way .. may be i'm totally losted in your stories

Bready · 08-22-2004, 11:36 PM

C'mon!

Sheesh

JB

mfpmax · 08-22-2004, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qc_Drifter

By T5 do you mean the Turbo 5 cylinder ?!?!!?

If yes, in which car is the T5 now ?!

And to reeferman , You swapped a T5 Volvo engine in a Mustang ?!

Any way .. may be i'm totally losted in your stories

Yup, T5 Volvo engine in a Mustang with a Jaguar inboard disc brake rear end setup.

NO!

Qc_Drifter · 08-23-2004, 12:18 AM

Sorry !!! I only asked a question !!

But then what do you mean by T5 ?!

Hard_Rocker · 08-23-2004, 12:19 AM

if you don't mind, what was your total cost for the swap, and how long did it take to get it all together once you had all your parts ready? I'm thinking WAY ahead here for a car I don't even own yet but it's good info to have

Hard_Rocker · 08-23-2004, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qc_Drifter

Sorry !!! I only asked a question !!

But then what do you mean by T5 ?!

T5 is a Ford 5-speed manual transmission commonly found in Mustangs. It's an extremely strong transmission compared to the Volvo manual transmissions because it was designed to take the torque that a big V8 outputs. From what I've read it's becoming a fairly standard swap for high-power RWD Volvos.

Qc_Drifter · 08-23-2004, 12:25 AM

Ok Thank you for the answer

mfpmax · 08-23-2004, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qc_Drifter

Sorry !!! I only asked a question !!

But then what do you mean by T5 ?!

Oh I thought you was joking.

mAydAy · 08-23-2004, 02:44 AM

makes me wnant to do it....

Captain Bondo · 08-23-2004, 02:45 AM

I thought it was the new bi-directional, universal muffler bearing. ;) Sorry couldn't help it. Either way, a search will turn up lots.

coondog240 · 08-23-2004, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hard_Rocker

if you don't mind, what was your total cost for the swap, and how long did it take to get it all together once you had all your parts ready? I'm thinking WAY ahead here for a car I don't even own yet but it's good info to have

ALOT!

check PM.

volvo9 · 08-23-2004, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hard_Rocker

T5 is a Ford 5-speed manual transmission commonly found in Mustangs. It's an extremely strong transmission compared to the Volvo manual transmissions because it was designed to take the torque that a big V8 outputs. From what I've read it's becoming a fairly standard swap for high-power RWD Volvos.

Sweet! My car is high powered! j/k.

How much did your 1 piece driveshaft cost? I will probrably be switching to a 1 piece if I can't get this f*kin 2 piece to work correctly.

Did you have to modify that "little crossmember thing" which the driveshaft crosses through near the rear?

2ptslow · 08-23-2004, 07:32 PM

looks good, nice oil trail under the car tho time for some degreaser

Turborg · 08-23-2004, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hard_Rocker

if you don't mind, what was your total cost for the swap, and how long did it take to get it all together once you had all your parts ready? I'm thinking WAY ahead here for a car I don't even own yet but it's good info to have

I just posted what my conversion cost. It included a rebuilt B23FT but the trans conversion cost is broken down.http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=23646

Hank Scorpio · 08-23-2004, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ptslow

looks good, nice oil trail under the car tho time for some degreaser

Thats active rust prevention.

08-21-2004, 01:48 AM	#1
coondog240 Homing Pigeon Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: St. Augustine FL	T5 done, good news and bad Finished the T5 swap tonight. I started w/ a '94 WC gearbox, which has a longer input shaft than earlier ones, so I put a new input shaft in it, turns out this year had reverse syncros. I purchased my clutch components from John Parker he got me clutchnet's dual diaphram Pressure Plate 100% over stock balanced on to one of his 9lb aluminum flywheels/ with a carbon disc, and a Mcleod long TO bearing w/ fork adapters. Everything installed perfectly, I was a little worried that I might have some clutch issues like the pioneers of this swap had. But the bugs have been worked out and the set up I have now works flawlessly. The clutch does its job correctly and noise free. I made the mount that Noah posted a pic of in another thread. And I had a 1pc. drive shaft made 46 3/8" center to center U-joints, 3" diameter. Everything works beautifully, no complaints feels like the car came from the factory like that, but I am getting the same decel buzz noise that Dave B. has. And I don't really know why, but I can live with it. I give this swap an A+. -Jeremy Oh, and if you can swing it get the aluminum flywheel it is a drastic improvement over stock. __________________ 1992 245 Last edited by coondog240; 08-21-2004 at 01:52 AM..

08-21-2004, 06:37 AM	#2
mfpmax Board Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Rockledge,Fl	Holy crap...reverse syncrhos! I could use that about now. __________________ A 2.3, but not a Volvo... Hesh wants some sex!

08-21-2004, 10:31 AM	#4
Hank Scorpio Chubfest 2009 Survivor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The neighborhood with the ******* guitar player.	Coondog, I believe I got one of the first improved clutches that dropped in and worked. Mine was flawless. Every time we do a swap, the closer we get. Now, I see your tranny sits at a slightly angle just like mine. I wonder if that could be part of the problem w/ the noise? (which btw, we all have). Seems to me, JP could rotate his milling 2-3* on the adapter to help line that up a bit better. Not really a huge issue, the motor mounts are so soft when you bolt it down that it levels out. Does that have the .8 or .6OD? Over all pretty happy I'd assume!.. right? __________________ Hank Scorpio is from the Simpsons. You can call me Doug ;) Will trade guitars/guitar parts for go fast goodies or stuff I need. Just PM. www.kauerguitars.com the second best way to upset neighbors and alienate people. History: Car 1 (242) \| Car 2 (t5r) \| Car 3 (255)

08-21-2004, 11:21 AM	#6
reeferman broad member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: PNW volvo country	T-5 nice install t-5 is the way to go.i road in a 92 mustang with a wc t-5 he put in a year ago.sounds just like mine.the sound is not a volvo thing. tony __________________ [IMG][/IMG]

08-22-2004, 11:29 PM	#11
Qc_Drifter Board Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Québec Canada	By T5 do you mean the Turbo 5 cylinder ?!?!!? If yes, in which car is the T5 now ?! And to reeferman , You swapped a T5 Volvo engine in a Mustang ?! Any way .. may be i'm totally losted in your stories __________________ http://QcDrifter.monchar.com -89 240 DL -97 850 AWD

08-21-2004, 11:03 AM	#5
coondog240 Homing Pigeon Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: St. Augustine FL	yeah I noticed it was on an angle too, I was thinking of elongating the holes for the mount and sliding it over. This tranny has the .68 5th. And I will be swapping a 4.11 rearend from my Gt into my car soon.

08-22-2004, 12:02 AM	#9
mfpmax Board Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Rockledge,Fl	Yeah, I think that buzz is normal. Before I swapped in my ...mustang... I read about auto to manual conversions and they say its normal. Mine certainly is a noisey bugger but my pilot bearing is the cause mostly. GM Syncromesh "may" quiet it up, but it wasn't designed for it, but some sware by it.

08-22-2004, 12:23 AM	#10
Chigga 744SE Taiwan hillbilly Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: On. Canada	it eliminates that annoying 2nd gear grind on MKII's.

08-23-2004, 12:18 AM	#14
Qc_Drifter Board Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Québec Canada	Sorry !!! I only asked a question !! But then what do you mean by T5 ?!

08-23-2004, 12:19 AM	#15
Hard_Rocker Board Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Louisville KY	if you don't mind, what was your total cost for the swap, and how long did it take to get it all together once you had all your parts ready? I'm thinking WAY ahead here for a car I don't even own yet but it's good info to have

08-23-2004, 12:25 AM	#17
Qc_Drifter Board Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Québec Canada	Ok Thank you for the answer

08-23-2004, 02:44 AM	#19
mAydAy Fabricatin' Join Date: May 2003 Location: Concord, NC	makes me wnant to do it....

08-23-2004, 07:32 PM	#23
2ptslow Board Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Panama City Beach, FL	looks good, nice oil trail under the car tho time for some degreaser __________________ Dress Italian, Kiss French, Drive German

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