Porsche Cayenne brakes on a 240? Sure

Homer · 07-14-2013, 06:17 PM

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Well. It works. Pedal feel is fantastic, firmer than stock 240. Modulation is excellent and its quite capable of throwing you into the dash. I haven't tried to lock up the 245s yet.

Details.

Front calipers. 17Z L and R from a 2005 Porsche Cayenne V8. 6 pot (330mm rotors)
Rear calipers. 2005 Porsche Cayenne V8. 4 pot
Master Cyl. 1.0625" bore from a 1994 Mustang GT
Rotors. S60R front and rear. Brembo.
Pads. OEM Pagids all around.

The adapters were designed by me. I'm considering doing a run of kits for this conversion. Overall the pricing is on par with the S60R brembo swap. Can be a little cheaper if you get lucky on ebay.

Because of the staggered pistons and the fact that on the Cayenne the calipers are mounted leading edge, I had to flip the crossover pipes and bleeder screws to retain the even pad wear.

Comparo.

Removing unneeded lines and draining fluid.

Always helping.

I notched the brake line holders so I can swap strut tubes when I fancy up the suspension.

Crossover line removal.

Rear 240 rotor with the rotor portion cut off. This retains the stock parking brake.

Trimming the backing plates to fit.

(The bleeder screw was just a dust plug)

The patient and owner.

Master Cyl.

Wat.

The only modification needed is extending the pushrod on the booster. ~.8"

The rear port is M10 bubble flare, front is M12 bubble flare so a reducer is needed.

Yes the triangle is coming out.

They're there. Hiding. Waiting.

Karl Buchka · 07-14-2013, 07:43 PM

That looks awesome! Good job!

Hank Scorpio · 07-14-2013, 08:01 PM

Nicely done my friend! One of the problems with the R calipers is they are technically backwards and instead of crossover tubes they are plugged. Well a few of us tried and the plugs are impossible to remove. Glad this worked out!

Corey · 07-14-2013, 08:16 PM

awesome! i love this car

GTJordan · 07-14-2013, 08:43 PM

Do the outside edges sit more inwards then the s60r calipers? I don't really know how to describe it...

Crazychopstick · 07-14-2013, 08:54 PM

Lord_Athlon · 07-14-2013, 09:05 PM

Ive never seen anything so amazing.

Great work.

Homer · 07-14-2013, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTJordan

Do the outside edges sit more inwards then the s60r calipers? I don't really know how to describe it...

I know what you mean. Outside face of caliper to outside face of rotor. Not sure. I've never had an R caliper in my hands. I can measure if you want though.

ashvolvo · 07-14-2013, 10:07 PM

Well done. Looks super neat. Great conversion.

Homer · 07-14-2013, 10:08 PM

A few more pics.

GTJordan · 07-14-2013, 10:12 PM

I'd be interested in that measurement. Then see f someone with an R conversion could do the same. Or I'll measure on the next R that comes through the shop

blkaplan · 07-15-2013, 08:31 AM

i'm surprised you still had the triangles until now.

Karl Buchka · 07-15-2013, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blkaplan

i'm surprised you still had the triangles until now.

Road hugging weight. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e9Q1u-NH_A...4Mercury1a.jpg

T101 · 07-15-2013, 08:44 AM

Could you provide further details on the adapter bracket?

blkaplan · 07-15-2013, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl Buchka

Road hugging weight. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e9Q1u-NH_A...4Mercury1a.jpg

homers got that now with those rotors.

advantage kansas

towerymt · 07-15-2013, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl Buchka

Road hugging weight. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e9Q1u-NH_A...4Mercury1a.jpg

Four door utility and two door styling...I like it!

Homer · 07-15-2013, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl Buchka

Road hugging weight. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e9Q1u-NH_A...4Mercury1a.jpg

My car is roadable too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdcrobertl

Could you provide further details on the adapter bracket?

Like?
Material is 7050 for the rears and 7075 for the front. They hold the calipers all good.

T101 · 07-15-2013, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdcrobertl

Could you provide further details on the adapter bracket?

Scratch that, put me at the head of the line when you start producing.

T101 · 07-15-2013, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homer

My car is roadable too.

Like?
Material is 7050 for the rears and 7075 for the front. They hold the calipers all good.

I was guilty of skimming your post, did not read.

you made and designed them.

I have been trying to decide which way to go with my brakes.

Do you think this will fit under borbet type-e's?
16 x 7.5, 20mm et at the moment.

Typing on my phone on the train, excuse the brevity.

CAPT_BLOTTO · 07-15-2013, 10:00 AM

Why aren't they painted a gaudy bright red?

towerymt · 07-15-2013, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdcrobertl

Do you think this will fit under borbet type-e's?
16 x 7.5, 20mm et at the moment.

Almost certainly no way they would fit under 16"s. Not without a smaller diameter rotor.

JohnMc · 07-15-2013, 10:17 AM

Awesomeness!!!

Random question: Does your spare tire still fit onto the car?

Homer · 07-15-2013, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdcrobertl

I was guilty of skimming your post, did not read.

you made and designed them.

I have been trying to decide which way to go with my brakes.

Do you think this will fit under borbet type-e's?
16 x 7.5, 20mm et at the moment.

Typing on my phone on the train, excuse the brevity.

As towery said, they will most definitely not. 17s are a min.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAPT_BLOTTO

Why aren't they painted a gaudy bright red?

I'm sorry I let you down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by towerymt

Almost certainly no way they would fit under 16"s. Not without a smaller diameter rotor.

Or stock 240 brakes

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnMc

Awesomeness!!!

Random question: Does your spare tire still fit onto the car?

Good question, it will not. I've got a random 17" volvo wheel on the way. I'll have to get one spacer made.

But it's just about the same price in the end as a S60R spare. I'd rather have the full size spare.

Chuck W · 07-15-2013, 11:14 AM

Excellent work! I like the tip for retaining the rear parking brake. I was looking at a couple options for brakes for the '77 when I get to serious wrenching on it, and that just might suit my needs.

Whole set-up looks great.

Gene_GaTech · 07-15-2013, 11:24 AM

fantastic work, great 240!

07-14-2013, 06:17 PM	#1
Homer OEMplus++ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA	Porsche Cayenne brakes on a 240? Sure GROUP BUY HERE! http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=286247 Well. It works. Pedal feel is fantastic, firmer than stock 240. Modulation is excellent and its quite capable of throwing you into the dash. I haven't tried to lock up the 245s yet. Details. Front calipers. 17Z L and R from a 2005 Porsche Cayenne V8. 6 pot (330mm rotors) Rear calipers. 2005 Porsche Cayenne V8. 4 pot Master Cyl. 1.0625" bore from a 1994 Mustang GT Rotors. S60R front and rear. Brembo. Pads. OEM Pagids all around. The adapters were designed by me. I'm considering doing a run of kits for this conversion. Overall the pricing is on par with the S60R brembo swap. Can be a little cheaper if you get lucky on ebay. Because of the staggered pistons and the fact that on the Cayenne the calipers are mounted leading edge, I had to flip the crossover pipes and bleeder screws to retain the even pad wear. Comparo. Removing unneeded lines and draining fluid. Always helping. I notched the brake line holders so I can swap strut tubes when I fancy up the suspension. Crossover line removal. Rear 240 rotor with the rotor portion cut off. This retains the stock parking brake. Trimming the backing plates to fit. (The bleeder screw was just a dust plug) The patient and owner. Master Cyl. Wat. The only modification needed is extending the pushrod on the booster. ~.8" The rear port is M10 bubble flare, front is M12 bubble flare so a reducer is needed. Yes the triangle is coming out. They're there. Hiding. Waiting. __________________ -Jacob: 1990 240 - 5 Cyl Whiteblocked. 2017 allroad - Comfy DD Last edited by Homer; 10-19-2013 at 05:56 PM..

07-14-2013, 08:01 PM	#3
Hank Scorpio Chubfest 2009 Survivor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The neighborhood with the ******* guitar player.	Nicely done my friend! One of the problems with the R calipers is they are technically backwards and instead of crossover tubes they are plugged. Well a few of us tried and the plugs are impossible to remove. Glad this worked out! __________________ Hank Scorpio is from the Simpsons. You can call me Doug ;) Will trade guitars/guitar parts for go fast goodies or stuff I need. Just PM. www.kauerguitars.com the second best way to upset neighbors and alienate people. History: Car 1 (242) \| Car 2 (t5r) \| Car 3 (255)

07-14-2013, 08:16 PM	#4
Corey Board Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: SF CA	awesome! i love this car __________________ '81 242 turbo

07-14-2013, 08:43 PM	#5
GTJordan Been here for too long Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Edmonton AB	Do the outside edges sit more inwards then the s60r calipers? I don't really know how to describe it... __________________ 80 242- 2.5L 16V, NIW intake/exhaust, T5, Porsche brakes, short billies and Kaplenkhe suspension, Trutrack. Project Thread- http://www.turbobricks.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=324470

07-14-2013, 08:54 PM	#6
Crazychopstick (/// _ - ) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Receiving Transmission from David Bowie nipple antenna	Wow __________________ Volvo parts I'm selling Custom 8mm sparkplug wires!

07-14-2013, 07:43 PM	#2
Karl Buchka Board Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Los Angeles	That looks awesome! Good job!

07-14-2013, 10:07 PM	#9
ashvolvo 2 > 7 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Geelong, Australia	Well done. Looks super neat. Great conversion. __________________ Likes good coffee & fast volvos. Builds stuff. Races stuff. f: https://www.facebook.com/DvsPerformanceParts twitter: ashd61 \| w: http://www.dvs.net.au 1998 V70T5 2004 Holden Commodore wagon

07-14-2013, 10:08 PM	#10
Homer OEMplus++ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA	A few more pics.

07-14-2013, 10:12 PM	#11
GTJordan Been here for too long Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Edmonton AB	I'd be interested in that measurement. Then see f someone with an R conversion could do the same. Or I'll measure on the next R that comes through the shop

07-15-2013, 08:44 AM	#14
T101 I like starting projects Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Atlanta, GA	Could you provide further details on the adapter bracket? __________________ 1986 244GL, Engineless, Suspensionless, Interiorless 1994 850 Base 'BATWGN' 300K 1998 V70 XC, So many probs, 120K Failure is a resource you can manage - Scott Adams

07-15-2013, 10:00 AM	#20
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07-15-2013, 10:17 AM	#22
JohnMc PV Abuser Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis	Awesomeness!!! Random question: Does your spare tire still fit onto the car? __________________ '63 PV Rat Rod '93 245 16VT Classic #1141

07-15-2013, 11:14 AM	#24
Chuck W Board Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Indpls, IN	Excellent work! I like the tip for retaining the rear parking brake. I was looking at a couple options for brakes for the '77 when I get to serious wrenching on it, and that just might suit my needs. Whole set-up looks great. __________________ '78 264GLE '97 854 T5 (Manual swap/COP/16T/P2R brakes) '80 264GLE (B21FT/M46/MS) - SOLD '77 242DL (B21F/M45) - SOLD '75 245DL SOLD '85 244GLT DEAD '83 Tbird Turbo (2.3T/T5/MegaSquirt) My feedback thread

07-15-2013, 11:24 AM	#25
Gene_GaTech Round Fender Spender? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bay Area, California	fantastic work, great 240! __________________ ------------- round fender mender > round fender sender > round fender spender? Current: 87 FJ60 \| 02 M3 Past: 90 740T (R) \| 89 760Ti \| 70 1800e \| 67 122s \| 02 MX-5 SE

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